Whole-known-network
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://phire.place/@tim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tim</span></a></span> html (And perhaps I mean the rendering agents) is a fascinating artifact that, I think, mostly takes flack because it solves so many problems at the same time that it forces the user to consider those problems while taking advantage of it. </p><p>To give a great example: using it as a render target is a colossal pain in the ass relative to a lot of alternatives if what you want is pixel perfect control of the output. What HTML screams at you with its design is "You don't want that. You don't actually want that. The more you tighten your grip, the more user agents slip through your fingers." You can get pixel precision, but the language fights you every step of the way and makes you absolutely climb Mount Everest to get it because it is almost certainly not what you <em>should</em> want if you're using HTML!</p><p>But that means that if you come at it thinking of it as another kind of tool than it is, it will bite you.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://phire.place/@tim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tim</span></a></span> they are symbiotic, but without JavaScript, we woudln't have webapps, and that's <em>criticall</em>. Static pages are good enough for many uses, but interactivity matters so much more.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror" class="u-url mention">@<span>codinghorror</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://phire.place/@tim" class="u-url mention">@<span>tim</span></a></span> At one point though I discovered how people better designed app layout declarative languages when it's the original purpose, and realized how HTML is not ideal. I wish we could be able to change the language we use for websites without sacrificing latency, performance and accessibility.</p>
<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror" class="u-url mention">@<span>codinghorror</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://phire.place/@tim" class="u-url mention">@<span>tim</span></a></span> Many snub HTML because it's a descriptive language, not a set of instructions. But it's still programming, as it's telling the browser the contents, but also why it's important, the context, all the things a language does.</p><p>It's a language of nouns and adjectives, the tags and attributes.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror" class="u-url mention">@<span>codinghorror</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://phire.place/@tim" class="u-url mention">@<span>tim</span></a></span> All of them useless without the real Daddy behind the scenes feeding them - SQL! 😀</p>
<p>Do you know some people who wrote about their experience (and potential struggles) of doing UX and design work for open-source/foss projects? </p><p>I mean wrote but any type of feedback are welcomed 🙏 (articles, podcast, conference etc…)<br />:boost_love:</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nojack.easydns.ca/@ttscoff" class="u-url mention">@<span>ttscoff</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@brentharrell" class="u-url mention">@<span>brentharrell</span></a></span> oh yeah the score is pretty good!</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@brentharrell" class="u-url mention">@<span>brentharrell</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> I actually haven't seen that one. Will see if I can give it a shot this week.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror" class="u-url mention">@<span>codinghorror</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://phire.place/@tim" class="u-url mention">@<span>tim</span></a></span> I mean, I agree. But you can argue you can’t get to JS without HTML. But as much as I love HTML more than JavaScript, I’d agree it is the most important. But HTML is way up there for me.</p>