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<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> The thing that irks me about the whole OSS supply chain discussion is that software companies seem to want a similar amount of security and responsibility, but don’t want to pay for it. OSS software is delivered for free and as-is, and to me that seems incompatible with providing these assurances.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> The result is that for a well maintained commercial vessel there are no surprises, and every part is traceable. </p><p>The cost of this process is worth it to prevent an Ea Nasir selling you bad copper, or your submarine imploding. Both the supplier and a third party have officially stated that the widget will work and have taken at least some responsibility for it. </p><p>(Though Boeing is an example of what happens if you start messing with that process)</p><p>…</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> The thing in shipbuilding is that you have to hire a class society like DNV or ABS that independently verifies that the vessel you built will work, and that no shortcuts were taken. </p><p>This means that from drawings, to steel, to component, to the entire ship, somebody has tested and verified that the thing you&#39;re using is actually fit for purpose. And you have a piece of paper with some signatures to prove it. None of these certificates are free.</p><p>...</p>
<p>Very fun read!</p><p>10 &gt; 64, in QR codes <a href="https://huonw.github.io/blog/2024/03/qr-base10-base64/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">huonw.github.io/blog/2024/03/q</span><span class="invisible">r-base10-base64/</span></a></p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@cheeseanddope" class="u-url mention">@<span>cheeseanddope</span></a></span> are they like... documented? are there schematics?</p>
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<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@lispegistus" class="u-url mention">@<span>lispegistus</span></a></span> i.e.: I think this is too reductionist and insufficiently nuanced for the problem at hand</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nixos.paris/@raito" class="u-url mention">@<span>raito</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@flaviusb" class="u-url mention">@<span>flaviusb</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://bsd.network/@cynicalsecurity" class="u-url mention">@<span>cynicalsecurity</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@dymaxion" class="u-url mention">@<span>dymaxion</span></a></span> you also cannot hold those rocks or hold them liable. You have to pay someone else to &quot;mine&quot; the rocks and &quot;process&quot; them to make them suitable for your purpose. That step is somehow missing from this discussion.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@lispegistus" class="u-url mention">@<span>lispegistus</span></a></span> I think I don&#39;t follow this line of maximalist argument because it&#39;s been well established that we want *some* degree of control over information that is &quot;just sitting there&quot;. even if you completely oppose any and all forms of IP (which even I don&#39;t do; trademarks have clear social utility, flawed as they are) you almost certainly don&#39;t want to be on completely unmoderated social media</p>