<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@azonenberg" class="u-url mention">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> could work. reliability might be tricky but I bet there are botanists out there who know the best species for this sort of thing.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@gsuberland" class="u-url mention">@<span>gsuberland</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@azonenberg" class="u-url mention">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> use a plant&#39;s ability to rotate toward light?</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@azonenberg" class="u-url mention">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> I wonder if there are any photochemical reactions that could be exploited here. Phase change for applying work via pressure would probably be too thermally dependent, but perhaps there might exist an equilibrium reaction whereby the presence of light leads to (or inverts) a separation of two liquids of differing densities, allowing you to use a precisely bouyant float.</p>

<p>💭 (set-logic QF_ABDL)</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@plragde" class="u-url mention">@<span>plragde</span></a></span> The word &quot;so&quot; is critical. There&#39;s a claim of degree and consequence that don&#39;t apply to either of us.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@bremner" class="u-url mention">@<span>bremner</span></a></span> TBH, even better is Morgan Ames&#39;s &quot;Hackers, Computers, and Cooperation: A Critical History of Logo and Constructionist Learning&quot;:</p><p><a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3274287" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3274287</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://types.pl/@lenary" class="u-url mention">@<span>lenary</span></a></span> no... but i might want to have a global &quot;undef mode&quot; knob for optimization passes :D</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@irene" class="u-url mention">@<span>irene</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@gwozniak" class="u-url mention">@<span>gwozniak</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@bremner" class="u-url mention">@<span>bremner</span></a></span> <br />This is too damn brilliant.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@gwozniak" class="u-url mention">@<span>gwozniak</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@bremner" class="u-url mention">@<span>bremner</span></a></span> <br />I&#39;ve been recommending the book to everyone I can. Morgan Ames&#39;s work is one of my &quot;holy trinity&quot; along with Justin Reich&#39;s &quot;Failure to Disrupt&quot; and Audrey Watters&#39;s writings.</p>