Whole-known-network
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@azonenberg" class="u-url mention">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@gsuberland" class="u-url mention">@<span>gsuberland</span></a></span> Having that much disposable income for hobby purposes deffo is an outlier.<br />I know that others buy yachts and classic cars, but still.</p>
<p>This feels like it could be a rich source of graduate student projects for years to come: <a href="https://turso.tech/blog/introducing-limbo-a-complete-rewrite-of-sqlite-in-rust" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">turso.tech/blog/introducing-li</span><span class="invisible">mbo-a-complete-rewrite-of-sqlite-in-rust</span></a></p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@gsuberland" class="u-url mention">@<span>gsuberland</span></a></span> I don't think I spend thaaaat much on board fab compared to someone who does a $50 board every week or two.</p><p>My designs are pricey but spaced so far out the amortized project cost isn't super crazy. Like, my trigger crossbar started in September (?) of 2023. Sure I spent $1K ish on the board but that's $66 a month so far and the firmware isn't even done yet.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@azonenberg" class="u-url mention">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@gsuberland" class="u-url mention">@<span>gsuberland</span></a></span> expensive boards azonenberg is an outlier adn should not have been counted</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@gsuberland" class="u-url mention">@<span>gsuberland</span></a></span> Fair enough.</p><p>I normally work on designs where I spend a month or more of spare time on schematic and layout, put several hundred dollars at *least* of parts on it, then months on firmware.</p><p>The board needs to just work, so I'm going to do everything I possibly can to tip the odds in my favor and minimize the chance of needing a respin because of something stupid.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@azonenberg" class="u-url mention">@<span>azonenberg</span></a></span> I personally don't mind working around these issues because it's soooooo cheap. More than enough to be the difference between me doing a design and not doing it.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@gsuberland" class="u-url mention">@<span>gsuberland</span></a></span> This kind of thing is why I haven't been a fan of JLC and similar places except for cheap "I don't care about quality or performance" stuff.</p><p>I'd rather give the fab a full material spec and stackup and have them either use it or tell me they can't do it.</p>
<p>I've noted this flaw in the question and asked them to add a feature where it warns you about this issue.</p><p>They won't do Tg135-140 for 8L, only Tg155, so it's correct there.</p><p>For 10L and up they use S1000-2M instead, which they refer to as Tg170 (it's actually Tg180 according to the datasheet, so I've posted another question about that discrepancy), and their impedance calculations correctly assume that material, so the issue is avoided here. It's only the 4L and 6L boards that are affected.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://donotsta.re/users/mwk" class="u-url mention">@<span>mwk</span></a></span> was it a private key</p>