<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention">@<span>mcc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.transneptune.net/@owen" class="u-url mention">@<span>owen</span></a></span> </p><p>Thinking of an elderly friend whose living room is lined with file cabinets, from a career keeping folders of teaching materials, who to this day struggles with the distinction between a &quot;file&quot; and a &quot;document&quot;, even though they&#39;ve been strategically saving documents with iterating file names for years to avoid overwriting old work.</p><p>One barrier to comprehension: the idea of nesting folders working like Matryoshka dolls. This is someone with decades of real world experience with files and folders, and in their real world experience, there&#39;s only ever three levels of nesting, a manila in a pendaflex in a drawer.</p><p>Even the suggestion that drawers are nested in cabinets is enough to derail understanding.</p><p>Another, that files exist independent of the program that created them. Trying to find a PDF file after using the scanner, and confused that it doesn&#39;t turn up, because they&#39;ve tried to find it via the Open File dialog in Word. &quot;That is how I get to my files.&quot;</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@tef" class="u-url mention">@<span>tef</span></a></span> 40? that&#39;s a good deal, sometimes they pay for 20</p>

<p>to be clear, when a recruiter, manager, or ceo says someone is a &quot;genius programmer&quot; or &quot;10x&quot; or similar</p><p>they mean &quot;someone who works 80 hour weeks and we only pay them for 40&quot; </p><p>every time</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@SDRHoernchen" class="u-url mention">@<span>SDRHoernchen</span></a></span> I hope there&#39;s a BGA version of it at least</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> 104lga aka &quot;104 qfn&quot; .. looks like dual row.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention">@<span>mcc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.transneptune.net/@owen" class="u-url mention">@<span>owen</span></a></span> I do think that reusable concepts are important, whether it&#39;s computing or e.g. physical metalworking tools</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.transneptune.net/@owen" class="u-url mention">@<span>owen</span></a></span> I am pretty sure I encountered these real-world ideas, or at least understood their connection to the computer ideas, *after* encountering them on the computer. I think the metaphors are still useful because they are *some kind of concept* that gets reused. It has a name and its use within the software is helpful because the software, at least, is consistent about its meaning, even if it&#39;s otherwise a pure floating signifier</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://adhd.irenes.space/@ireneista" class="u-url mention">@<span>ireneista</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention">@<span>mcc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.transneptune.net/@owen" class="u-url mention">@<span>owen</span></a></span> (to add to this and the other sub-thread, I think WIMP is quite alright but it would be preposterous to say that it is inherently intuitive or requires no learning)</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention">@<span>mcc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.transneptune.net/@owen" class="u-url mention">@<span>owen</span></a></span> for example I have never seen &quot;a folder&quot; with &quot;files&quot; and I did not have the background to comprehend those concepts because I was not an office worker. I have probably been in an office a few times but I never made the connection because I&#39;ve never used those objects much less understood why somebody would care that much about them</p>