Whole-known-network
@whitequark@mastodon.social which one is the most downloaded one?
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.acc.sunet.se/@maswan" class="u-url mention">@<span>maswan</span></a></span> threatmoding</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span></p><p>... so you can start threat modeling?</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias" class="u-url mention">@<span>dalias</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://orbital.horse/@emma" class="u-url mention">@<span>emma</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention">@<span>mcc</span></a></span> I had to spend a decade loudly yelling this at both users and distros, sometimes in person at conferences, and the consequence of that was, as far as I can tell, 100% of my users stopped getting my code from distros. I am not aware of any instances where a distro provided the support that they were either contractually (in the case of RH or Canonical) or socially by their own policies (in the case of Debian) obligated to provide, although I'd love to hear of one</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@glyph" class="u-url mention">@<span>glyph</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias" class="u-url mention">@<span>dalias</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://orbital.horse/@emma" class="u-url mention">@<span>emma</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention">@<span>mcc</span></a></span> i'm going to go ahead and say that anyone who uses my software from a distro Must, and that is a capital-M must, obtain all support from the distro itself</p><p>the distro is of course free to obtain support from me</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@dalias" class="u-url mention">@<span>dalias</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://orbital.horse/@emma" class="u-url mention">@<span>emma</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mcc" class="u-url mention">@<span>mcc</span></a></span> okay it is nearly 2AM where I am so I am going to take a deep breath and put a pin in that, because I _super_ do not have the time to get into why distros should not exist and why the incentive structures of the community and the industry are such that they do the _opposite_ of this (distros create accountability drains so everyone can avoid responsibility, not robust institutions that can be depended upon). see this classic for the intro: <a href="https://alexgaynor.net/2015/mar/30/red-hat-open-source-community/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">alexgaynor.net/2015/mar/30/red</span><span class="invisible">-hat-open-source-community/</span></a></p>
<p>this knowledge gives me a deep "I am currently staring into the abyss" feeling, like looking down from a high up cliff</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://with.iridium.ink/@artemis" class="u-url mention">@<span>artemis</span></a></span> is the N perhaps a generic parameter?</p>
<p>more than once per every human who currently lives on earth</p>