Whole-known-network
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@shriramk" class="u-url mention">@<span>shriramk</span></a></span> I've been using it basically since launch - I don't use any of the AI features. Basically it feels to me like Google did a decade ago - just really solid results. And, you can adjust the rankings of individual sites, so I do stuff like block ones I never want to see (as discussed :) ) and pin stuff like wikipedia and the arch wiki to the top, because I know if they have a result, it probably answers what I wanted directly. Much more focused on providing features that help the user than ads.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@ricci" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Basically, $25 for Kagi Ultimate would get me top models, while spending the same as $20 for Raycast + $5 for Kagi Starter, but without Kagi Starter restrictions…</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@shriramk" class="u-url mention">@<span>shriramk</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> yeah see in my case, I block quora because it would show up in like every search, and return an answer that was bad, or had excessive detail, or that quora would just not show me because I didn't have an account.</p><p>I actually don't block any of those awful sites ... because they never show up in my search results, so no reason to.</p><p>This is what I mean about its search ranking being too high - I'm sure there were some very good answers, but I would get it *all* the time as if it were wikipedia or something when it was ... okay, yes better than Yahoo Answers, but ....</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@ricci" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Hmm, looks like it offers an LLM option. I'm right now paying $20/month to Raycast for essentially the same. I use almost nothing else of Raycast. So making that switch seems easy enough…</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@ricci" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Are you happy with Kagi? I sometimes use Brave Search, but it's truly worse than Google Search (ads aside, which are annoying for sure). And it also does GenAI (though I must admit about 20% of the time I do find it somewhat useful). I assume Kagi definitely doesn't do GenAI, but is the search really good?</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@ricci" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Yikes, it's also the #1 "lowered":<br /><a href="https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard&k=-1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboar</span><span class="invisible">d&k=-1</span></a> Higher than even foxnews!</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@ricci" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Blocking Forbes makes sense, blocking NYT and WaPo? Is it because people don't want to pay for news, or because they're too fash for MSM? Makes you wonder…</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@ricci" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Wow. It's higher than a lot of truly awful sites.</p><p>But I think they started to do GenAI-generated answers at some point, in which case they fully deserve the block. Until then it was mostly just influencer BS, like a parallel LinkedIn.</p>
<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@ricci" class="u-url mention">@<span>ricci</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> OMG. That's really sad. All that work for nothing, then.</p>