<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@shriramk" class="u-url mention">@<span>shriramk</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://types.pl/@krismicinski" class="u-url mention">@<span>krismicinski</span></a></span> having been through a couple rounds of ABET (for our CE program, not CS) I feel like there&#39;s just a teensy bit of good that happens because of it. of course far outweighted by the bureaucratic bullshit.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://types.pl/@krismicinski" class="u-url mention">@<span>krismicinski</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Yeah, I&#39;m very aware of broad scope of institutions that accreditation covers. I am not at all convinced that it has done those institutions a lot of good either. It may be that accreditation in some other disciplines is better, and CS accreditation rides those coattails.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://types.pl/@krismicinski" class="u-url mention">@<span>krismicinski</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> The real issue is that people have decided to give ABET any say in the process at all. And ignored all the red flags that come with it. If they didn&#39;t realize by now how broken it is…well, nothing is going to matter for them.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> I have not been keeping up with the details, but I believe places are now effectively required to remove DEIA, and if ABET *requires* them to have DEIA, then they have to either obey the Pres or lose ABET, and the latter can be disastrous to some.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@shriramk" class="u-url mention">@<span>shriramk</span></a></span> but does it? did they get an executive order?</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://scholar.social/@eeide" class="u-url mention">@<span>eeide</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@dan" class="u-url mention">@<span>dan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@dev" class="u-url mention">@<span>dev</span></a></span> I walked by Independence Hall in Philly this evening, read all the text about democracy and the constitution and what not, shook my head, and decided to just walk on…</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@regehr" class="u-url mention">@<span>regehr</span></a></span> Only evidence #219 of how dumb and useless ABET is for most people, so it&#39;s not like there&#39;s anything new here…</p><p>BUT, and I can&#39;t — really can&#39;t — believe I&#39;m defending ABET here, but I can sort of see how this puts them in a bind.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://digipres.club/@dsalo" class="u-url mention">@<span>dsalo</span></a></span> That might explain the sign.</p><p>That, and *looks around* America.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ReneDamkot" class="u-url mention">@<span>ReneDamkot</span></a></span> OMG.</p>