<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> Spotify and Netflix aside. Google is interesting in they have a YouTube Horizon OS app and an Android XR YouTube app apparently whenever that ships so that’s clearly singling Apple out 😂</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@schwa" class="u-url mention">@<span>schwa</span></a></span> oh you’re completely correct. That’s totally how that works. But when was the last time they didn’t even want to show up on an Apple platform at all? When they actively made their apps not work. And to be clear, that’s fair b/c that would require real work and a real cost to test and maintain. But the secondary piece is, why get there early just to get there if the partner treats you like shit. Many of those people were on Oculus and HTC devices a decade ago at or near launch.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@jamesoloughlin" class="u-url mention">@<span>jamesoloughlin</span></a></span> I mean yes that’s part of it. But the bigger players who you expect to show up, your Spotify’s, YouTube’s, Netflix’s, won’t even do the QA to get the iPad apps working. And I don’t blame them! It’s petty but also, why build a platform for a partner/competitor that treats you like shit. There is a real cost to making the apps work and keeping them working. But a big part too is that this is rent coming due. And it’s time to collect.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> just today I wished I could open vivado from my other machine. But what I really wanted was to connect to the session that was already open. I ended up walking out to the lab. I actually have an x2go session open with vivado as well, but x2go doesn&#39;t do a good job sharing the local desktop when you have many physical monitors hooked up. And it really doesn&#39;t like the Dvorak keyboard layout. I hadn&#39;t thought of steam.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> My, probably naive, assumption is that companies like YouTube and Netflix and whoever else are just doing cost/benefit analysis and just aren&#39;t seeing the numbers to make spinning off N engineers worthwhile. I feel the &quot;anger&quot; issue is something “typical” devs care about but execs at the big companies don&#39;t give a shit - they&#39;ll go where the users are.</p><p>But what do i know.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@schwa" class="u-url mention">@<span>schwa</span></a></span> yeah like I said in another reply, it’s a chicken/egg problem. And for decades Apple had the leverage to come first and trust the eggs would follow. But the goodwill ran out and so unfortunately you’re left with some devs refusing to take a financial risk at launch on a low-user product and some devs saying “I’m not going to build your moat for you when you treat us like shit, do it without us at launch” and then it turns out no one else joins in.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> I think it’s more that VR and MR development is hard and the native path is limited right now (Window app types excluded), Unity requires a Pro license ($2k a year) and Unreal Engine support is done by one guy at Epic on the weekends. Plus it’s $3,500, market size is ~420k. This is a perfect scenario for Apple to justify all the 15-30% commissions reasoning of its their costumers and build more native first party apps to make Vision Pro so good no one can ignore it.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@film_girl" class="u-url mention">@<span>film_girl</span></a></span> can we please, please, please get a special return of a rocket episode for this 🙏🏽 God I miss the take you three had on the news of the day.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@schwa" class="u-url mention">@<span>schwa</span></a></span> I mean consider that the one good way to use YouTube by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@christianselig" class="u-url mention">@<span>christianselig</span></a></span> was forced to leave the App Store. Now, you can put a lot of that on YouTube, sure (most of it even). But I think this also speaks again to how badly Apple has angered devs when YouTube won’t even do a bare minimum app and when Safari itself isn’t sufficient for a good UX.</p>