<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> at least before win11, which now apparently officially requires secure boot(?) and hence MS signatures, kernel drivers are often signed by third party developer certificates and microsoft has never actually seen those drivers. their idea of “signing” is a bit.. useless? without secure boot as least.</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@ronya" class="u-url mention">@<span>ronya</span></a></span> oh, hm. i&#39;m not very familiar with the distinction then</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> that’s also the case for non-WHQL signed kernel drivers though. WHQL is optional for that.</p>

<p>... wait, windbg has gdbserver support and can debug linux processes</p><p>i could already do this</p><p>unfortunately it&#39;s not very usable because it doesn&#39;t know how to parse ELF files. someone should write a DWARF to PDB converter lmao</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.catgirl.cloud/@multisn8" class="u-url mention">@<span>multisn8</span></a></span> supposedly people have been using gdb too</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@ronya" class="u-url mention">@<span>ronya</span></a></span> yeah. a driver that can be loaded on a kernel with testsigning disabled</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> not that it makes much of a difference, but are you talking about something that’s WHQL signed?</p>

<p>windbg&#39;s user interface is absolutely fucked in concept, but ... it&#39;s actually usable? i am effective with it?? it doesn&#39;t require me to work around a lack of features constantly??? it doesn&#39;t require me to remember fifteen-word incantations with strict syntax checking to do something very basic????</p>

<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> yesssss!</p>