<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://types.pl/@krismicinski" class="u-url mention">@<span>krismicinski</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://aus.social/@robs" class="u-url mention">@<span>robs</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.ahfrom.synology.me/users/ahfrom" class="u-url mention">@<span>ahfrom</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://discuss.systems/@sigplan" class="u-url mention">@<span>sigplan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.acm.org/@ACM" class="u-url mention">@<span>ACM</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.sciences.re/@MonniauxD" class="u-url mention">@<span>MonniauxD</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://types.pl/@wilbowma" class="u-url mention">@<span>wilbowma</span></a></span> <br />Therefore, to me the question is less "In which country should we host the conference" and more "how do we kill our dependence on them".</p><p>And to be clear (social media being the Lands of Bad Faith), lest my words get construed as or twisted into implicitly defending the US: what is happening in the US is despicable. The existence of other bad places is irrelevant to that: we are in a terrible state and there are no excuses for it.</p>