<p>We need to establish that some of this work is human subjects work. The ethics, history, failings to learn from, and practice of applied research, of behavioral science, and of intervention science are all unbelievably ignored in favor of "engineering expertise" and ridiculous credibility contests. Yes, even in "human-centered" software spaces, rarely is care and effort taken to learn from social sci even when *people are talking about doing social science*!!</p>