<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> There is this really vexing thing where, in the heyday of xmpp (and back when the thought that 'productifying'/'startupifying' a thing would ensure income+project longevity+wider usefulness to humanity - like 'we can get rich developing the thing we love via private property relations and business ontology!' was seen as obviously true among 'programmer society') so many pretty cool looking xmpp based IM systems were developed and 'productified' and are now gone or effectively gone.</p>