<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@whitequark" class="u-url mention">@<span>whitequark</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://socks.masto.host/@John" class="u-url mention">@<span>John</span></a></span> and ironically container systems ended up so complicated that most companies using them at even moderate scale need someone on staff whose primary job is to supervise it. especially once they start doing stuff like kubernetes.</p>