<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@samth" class="u-url mention">@<span>samth</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hci.social/@chrisamaphone" class="u-url mention">@<span>chrisamaphone</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@MartinEscardo" class="u-url mention">@<span>MartinEscardo</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@HarrisonGrodin" class="u-url mention">@<span>HarrisonGrodin</span></a></span> You have totally misunderstood me, sorry for being ambiguous. I meant “honest” not in the sense of virtue or earnesty, but in the sense of not having to convince everyone else that what one is doing is legitimate CS. PL has always been, wrongly, at the margins of mainstream CS, i.e. viewed wrongly as not “honest CS”, and therefore PL theorists have adopted a number of coping mechanisms that are driving Martin crazy but are understandable under the circumstances. </p><p>Hope this clarifies?</p>